#741: Jim Collins and Ed Zschau
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#741: Jim Collins and Ed Zschau
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"Do what you enjoy doing. Do it the best you know how. Good things will happen."
"Don't just follow what it's recommended. Do what you enjoy doing."

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In this episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, Tim celebrates the podcast's 10th anniversary by curating insights from notable guests Jim Collins and Ed Schau. The episode is rich with themes around entrepreneurship, teaching, and the importance of personal connection in education.
Jim Collins discusses his unique approach to measuring productivity and creativity, previously using a stopwatch with three timers. His method has evolved into a simpler reflection model to ensure he engages in sufficient creative work each day. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a high standard of quality in one’s work and advocates for a disciplined approach akin to a '20-mile march' for long-term success.
Ed Schau shares his journey as a mentor and educator, discussing his emphasis on entrepreneurship as a mindset rather than just a career path. He believes in the significance of fostering creativity and supports students' ambitions through encouragement rather than pressure. Schau illuminates the power of storytelling, both through teaching and in his life, and stresses the value of conducting thorough preparations for success.
The dialogue covers various societal issues, including the costs of higher education and the mechanisms for innovation in academia, such as income-sharing agreements. Ed's commitment to nurturing the next generation of entrepreneurs resonates throughout the discussion, showcasing the impact of dedicated mentorship and the transformative potential of education.
Jim Collins discusses his unique approach to measuring productivity and creativity, previously using a stopwatch with three timers. His method has evolved into a simpler reflection model to ensure he engages in sufficient creative work each day. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a high standard of quality in one’s work and advocates for a disciplined approach akin to a '20-mile march' for long-term success.
Ed Schau shares his journey as a mentor and educator, discussing his emphasis on entrepreneurship as a mindset rather than just a career path. He believes in the significance of fostering creativity and supports students' ambitions through encouragement rather than pressure. Schau illuminates the power of storytelling, both through teaching and in his life, and stresses the value of conducting thorough preparations for success.
The dialogue covers various societal issues, including the costs of higher education and the mechanisms for innovation in academia, such as income-sharing agreements. Ed's commitment to nurturing the next generation of entrepreneurs resonates throughout the discussion, showcasing the impact of dedicated mentorship and the transformative potential of education.
Key Takeaways
- Measure productivity creatively to sustain quality work over time.
- Encouragement and support are critical in education, rather than pressure.
- Entrepreneurship is a mindset available to anyone, not just business professionals.
- Preparation and storytelling enhance teaching effectiveness and engagement.
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